Where is "Monitor Audio" Option Build 41

BossGuitar69

Where the heck is it? Can't find it.

jeff

Sessions->Edit Session->Global

Once you're there, there are two ways to find things. You can browse for them by opening items in the tree view, in this case it's under "Miscellany". Or you can type "Monitor" in the search box above the tree and it will find where it is.

BossGuitar69

jeff Thanks. Found it. Not sure that the very basic option of monitoring audio should be relegated to the category of "obscure thing for advanced users." Maybe bring it into the "most of the things you want" category?

jeff

BossGuitar69 In practice, monitoring your live audio signal through mobius is not exactly obscure, but from past comments, it is most often not used. This is because it is better when possible to monitor your live signal "direct" rather than all the way through the computer to reduce latency. All Mobius needs to do then is receive that audio and delay it, and play it back but you're not depending on it for your main signal. If you are not using other plugins in the host to process your instrument sound but rather using hardware amp modelers or mutli-effects, this is what you want to do. If that's your situation, then most audio interfaces have some mechanism for direct monitoring in addition to passing the audio into the computer.

If you ARE using other plugins in the host for your instrument sound, then even then people seem to usually use host routing to effectively split the signal from the audio interface into two chains, one for effects processing and one for looping, but there is a lot of variability on that. For example, post processing the Mobius output "wet" mixed with the "dry" live signal.

For simpler signal chains of Audio Interface->Plugin Host->Amp Modeler->Mobius->Audio Interface then yes, through-Mobius monitoring is convenient and should be presented more visibly.

For others reading this I'm curious, how many monitor through Mobius?

BossGuitar69

jeff I do both. I just don't think it should be buried in a miscellaneous, obscure category. It used to be front and center as it should be, IMO.

DaveAbbott

Hi Jeff, I have been monitoring through Mobius,,, although I'm thinking after reading this, that it might be better not to, after all, its pretty simple to set up an extra track (for just about any DAW i would think) for the instrument in question and send a feed to the Mobius track. With a little bit of routing one could send any number of tracks to it, as im sure quite a few people do.

Best Regards, Dave

jeff

I moved this along with a few other things (latencies, long press duration) to a new category under the Globals tab so you see them right away.

While looking at this, it did raise some questions about how monitoring should work. When this is enabled what happens is that for each track, whatever is coming in on the input port the track is receiving from is copied to that track's output port, but ONLY if this is the focused track. If the track is not focused (white box around it) then this won't happen. In practice, this doesn't usually matter since solo artists tend to work with only one track at a time, but in theory If you had a multi-instrument setup with simultaneous input streams going to different tracks, you might want monitoring on all of them, or some combination of them.

Monitoring is also not necessarily a track thing, it's more of a port-to-port option regardless of which tracks are using those ports. For example, you always want what is coming in on ports 1,2,3 to be echoed to output port 4. You can do all that in the host of course, but if lots of people are expecting Mobius to manage their monitor feeds, then there may need to be more options there.