Trying to Build a Hardware-Style Workflow in Mobius 3

Gene77

Hi everyone!

I only recently discovered Mobius 3 and installed build 47. It's an excellent looping program.

I originally started learning looping with a Boss RC-1. I managed to extend its capabilities and turn it into something close to a two-track looper by using the Undo/Redo function. I connected two external footswitches: one for Stop/Clear and the other for Undo/Redo. Over time, this became my workflow.

Now I'd like to build something similar in Mobius 3, but with two or even three tracks. I've already figured out the type of synchronization I need, and with the help of my friend GPT I've also started learning MSL scripting.

At the moment I have this setup for two tracks:

Button 1 - Record, Overdub, Play for Track 1
Button 2 - Record, Overdub, Play for Track 2
Button 3 - Stop Track 1, long press clears Track 1
Button 4 - Stop Track 2, long press clears Track 2
Button 5 - Stop/Start all tracks, long press clears all tracks

I've run into a few issues and hope someone can point me in the right direction.

Global Stop/Start

I can't properly program a Stop/Start All function.

When both tracks are in the same state, everything works fine. But if one track is stopped and the other is playing, pressing the Stop/Start All button stops the playing track and starts the stopped one.

Of course, I can work around this by manually stopping the playing track and then starting everything together, but that's much less convenient.

Ideally, I'd like a script where the button always stops all tracks regardless of their current state, and then starts all tracks together regardless of what was happening before.

Automatic track switching during recording/overdubbing

I haven't been able to recreate a very useful feature found in hardware loopers.

Example:

Press Track 1 -> recording starts.
Press Track 2 -> recording on Track 1 closes automatically and recording immediately starts on Track 2.

I'd like the same behavior with overdubs:

Press Track 1 -> Track 1 starts recording.
Press Track 1 again -> Track 1 enters overdub mode.
Press Track 2 -> the overdub on Track 1 ends automatically and recording starts on Track 2.

Is this possible in Mobius?

Binding preset issue

I can't figure out a problem with binding presets.

Only the top preset in the list actually works.

For example, I have the default "Base" preset and then my own preset underneath it. No matter what I change or which preset I mark as active, Mobius always uses the Base preset.

If I delete Base, my preset becomes the top one and then it always works, but I still can't use any other presets.

Also, in the preset selection menu, the top preset doesn't appear where the active preset checkmark is shown.

Am I missing something?

Synchronization and loop closing

I've read a lot of forum posts about synchronization, but I still don't fully understand it.

I record Loop 1 and close it. It starts playing.

Then I record Loop 2 on another track. To close it correctly, I have to press the button just slightly early. If I hit the button exactly on the downbeat, Mobius records one extra measure and only then closes the loop.

I can hit the downbeat accurately, so I'm wondering:

Is there a way to press the button right on the beat and have Mobius quantize the loop closing and forgive small timing errors?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for any advice. Good luck to everyone!

jeff

Sorry for the delay, I've been out for awhile. What you're asking for is all doable, but requires a relatively complicated collection of workflow scripts. Things like this have been done before but everyone has their own take on exactly how it should work so I haven't packaged up any examples yet. I'm catching up on forum posts from the last month or so and I'll try to get to this one.